morbius
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Post by morbius on Jul 4, 2013 20:30:53 GMT -5
Just a simple post here. This is an interesting view of the Rover making a pit service stop in the vicinity of the Twin Peaks area. A service technician is leaning over a rock with a screwdriver in one hand. He wears a service belt with various tools on his waist and appears dressed in camouflage fatigues. I have simply outlined his face in red to allow the viewer to focus in on the scene quicker, and his presence does explain an otherwise impossible service live of this vehicle. Cheers / -M *************************************** Attachments:
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ken
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Post by ken on Jul 5, 2013 9:16:58 GMT -5
That would explain the extra ordinary long service life of these rovers Morbius.
BTW, I am having a difficult time placing photos on my posts all of a sudden. Now I can't even edit my old posts or even start a new thread?
Is this some gremlins in the works or another AA forum in disguise that does not want me to post here because new knowledge about Mars is verboten ?
An inquiring mind would like to know?
Sorry for the diversion Morbius.
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Post by Marsrocks on Jul 5, 2013 10:21:12 GMT -5
Ken: BTW, I am having a difficult time placing photos on my posts all of a sudden. Now I can't even edit my old posts or even start a new thread?
Is this some gremlins in the works or another AA forum in disguise that does not want me to post here because new knowledge about Mars is verboten ?
An inquiring mind would like to know?
Sorry for the diversion Morbius.
Ken,
Please continue to post your thoughts - you are welcome to post here.
I think what may be happening, is that there is a time limit for editing posts. After a few hours, if it no longer allows you to edit, just feel free to add another post to the thread.
I'm not sure what may be happening with the image problem. If it continues to fail, use the imgur link (at the top of the forum page, and also at the top of your create post area - and then upload your images to imgur. When you return to the board with the imgur BBC code links - be sure to insert them into the regular posting area (the BBC code of your post), and not the preview screen.
Also, as far as creating new threads, I ran into the same problem early on after the new software change- and was shocked to find that the "Create Thread" button wasn't appearing for me in the upper right. I refreshed the page, and it still didn't appear. Finally, I realized I was viewing the board through the "Recent Threads" link. In order to get back to the Mars Anomalies forum where you can post, just click the big Mars Anomalies banner at the top of the page, and then select the Mars Anomalies forum from the board list. You can't post from the "recent threads" view because it doesn't know which board you want to post to.
I hope this solves your problems, but if not, please let me know, as nothing should be interfering with members who wish to post here.
Thanks.
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Post by Marsrocks on Jul 5, 2013 10:23:35 GMT -5
Testing image attachments: Once you have your image attachment uploaded, (and after you post your message), you can right click on the image thumbnail and open it into a new tab. Then you can copy the link, and insert its address into the body of your message - then highlight the address, and click on the word: "Image." This will insert the fully expanded image into the body of your post, if you like it this way, rather than as a thumbnail:
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Post by Marsrocks on Jul 5, 2013 10:29:49 GMT -5
You can even re-insert other people's attachments as expanded images (if they are really large, the image will only be expanded up to the size of the message board page), using the same instructions: And you can add a link for the fully expanded image, by just copying and pasting the link into the message: marsanomalies.proboards.com/attachment/download/143
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ken
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Post by ken on Jul 5, 2013 11:21:33 GMT -5
Thank you for your help and explanation Marsrocks.
Can you tell me where to find the "New Thread" or "Start New Thread" box is so I can click on it, as I don't seem to see it anymore on my computer screen.
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Post by Marsrocks on Jul 5, 2013 12:18:22 GMT -5
Be sure to look for the Mars>Mars Anomalies> on the left side of the screen, and "Create Thread" should appear just above Last Post on the right side:
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Post by Marsrocks on Jul 5, 2013 12:27:05 GMT -5
Ken, I also just added a "New Thread" link at the top of the board, so you can start a new thread from anywhere you are - even if you reading the board from the "Recent Posts" category:
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ken
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Post by ken on Jul 5, 2013 16:51:06 GMT -5
That "New Thread" on the right of every page is most useful.
Thanks again Marsrocks.
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morbius
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Post by morbius on Aug 23, 2013 20:31:29 GMT -5
I have prepared this ' Rover pit-stop scene ' in colour here, and although presented for all viewers to visualize and comprehend this amazing scene ... with the service technician ' leaning over a rock with a screwdriver in his right hand .. wearing a service belt with its various tools on his waist, and appearing dressed in camouflage fatigues .. it is especially presented to Chandre over at AA, who was sorry, but she couldn't see the serviceman in a previous post there. Perhaps he may now be perceived .. as a quite visible reality. Thanks to Macten too, who put me on to ' the layering-system ' some time ago .. should have paid more attention to this quite valid and useful format, but will employ it more often now. Cheers/ -M ********************************************* ps: this guy is looking, or glaring, right at the camera, and appears as someone you would avoid bumping into outside a bar at night .. just a thought. *********************
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Post by Marsrocks on Aug 24, 2013 9:42:13 GMT -5
Morbius, the color overlay technique you used enabled me to see what you were talking about (in this one) for the first time. Before, I only saw an amorphous rock blob, attached to a more regular looking rock. Once you see it, it is very difficult to un-see. The bearded man figure appears to be stretching his body over the regular rock to reach down to the rover position Of course we know there were many photos of this rock taken over about 90 days, and the regular rock and the shape attached to the rock never moved during the MPF mission. So, from that knowledge, it is more reasonable to believe that whatever this shape is - it is not a living person actually repairing the rover, but a more permanent shape attached to the main rock. I used a little blue dot to identify the position of the man's eye, and red to identify the location of his lips for anyone still having problems seeing this figure. Volcanoes can produce amorphous blobs of hot molten rock which fly out in all directions upon volcanic explosion, and parts of the molten rock attach themselves to other rocks. This would be the geological explanation for what we see. Other explanations would be 1. That a figure of a man was intentionally formed on this rock in the shape we see by corporeal intelligent beings that lived or still live on Mars, 2. a man once leaned over this rock, and his body after dehydrating a bit, fossilized in this position by some Mars process, 3. A toy doll, puppet, or manikin was left on this rock, deformed a bit over time, and then fossilized, merging onto the more regularly shaped rock, 4. There are self-organizing forces in the Universe that tend to create the same shapes over and over, including anthropomorphic forms, and as a result, this shape formed naturally, 5. There are living spirits (non-corporeal beings who act with intent on the physical universe) which whimsically influence natural geological forms, either instantly or over long periods of time, or 6. the shape was formed randomly by volcanic action, but its amorphous shape can be brilliantly interpreted as very similar to a man leaning over, or even climbing over a rock simply as a result of their own ingenious ability at problem-solving. In either event, thank you for posting it, as it is a curious new look at what we see. Within the categories I have constructed so far of possible artificially suggestive forms, I would put it into the "small figures" category, much like the mermaid or the Egyptian statue, although this one requires a great deal more attention, mental effort, and interpretation for a casual viewer to see it and understand it in this way.
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Post by Marsrocks on Aug 24, 2013 11:14:19 GMT -5
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morbius
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Post by morbius on Aug 25, 2013 0:38:09 GMT -5
A few years ago, there was a caller-in on Coasttocoastam. This was a no nonsense, factually speaking lady, who spoke clearly and with confidence. She worked for NASA, and was responsible for keeping all the computers up and running in the main complex. This was quite a large room which contained a central room on a raised platform reached by a few wide steps. This was the Command and Administration Personel Area. She reported that, one day, while watching the Rover parked by the Yogi rock, she saw two men, seeming like a mirage, walking across the sands towards the Rover. They had on Texaco style service suits, and were equipped wth many tools .. including sprayer and squeegee type tools in their hands. Well .. at first she thought she was either hallucinating .. or going insane. But a number of co-workers were also standing gaping as the scene unfolded. Their outside monitors suddenly went dead .. so they scrambled up the steps to peer in at the Command Area's larger monitors through the glass. Those inside ordered them back to work, but they wouldn't, so those inside started taping newspaper sheets to the inside of the windows. This it would seem, is an accurate eye-witness account to the same scene described in the post pic here. I recall many C2C shows where competent, professional and high ranking persons reported the back-engineering of alien craft since the Roswell Crash, and that the intense research was rapidly successful in producing our own craft. And that, in this case, we have been making regular return trips to Mars since 1966. Now, I have no reason to believe these reports, but I think even less reason to disbelieve them either. These reports and appearances are from Admirals, Generals, top fighter and test pilots, scientists, defense department ministers and leaders, and astronauts as well. It is possible one, two, or mabee three .. tops - might have flipped .. but not 80, a 100 .. and more?!! After 15 years of intense anomaly research, I am quite confident in my experience, training, and gut instinct, that the Rover Techs are ..a definite realty. I do not have to cop out with the " it's a rock " gang. I know what I see and I trust my own eyes .. not NASA's predictable preconditioning. In a way now, it is a stalemate, as I cannot ' prove ' these scenes as interpreted and described .. but then again .. it is not disproveable either. Hunters it seems .. live in a strange and precarious world of twilight imagery .. and reality.
What then, can be said about this stalemate .. this peculiar stasis state of mind in viewing such images and scenes the anomaly researcher encounters constantly? One, to begin we might ask .. can we really explore shapes and spacial relationships when the area is already obscured to insure its contents remain undeciperable to begin with? Just what then, is the ability to reveal the most incomprehensible detail? It is the human mind and spirit that is the medium to realize or comprehend the incomprehensible. To wit: to produce a work that inspires and expresses simplicity .. yet contains an awareness of the complexities actually attached and attributable to the find. Produce a work with impact .. yes, but based upon reality. Ultimately then, the process of becoming an anomaly hunter involves the tools and training to produce a finished product .. one that requires little, if any, arrows, circles, or ' interpretation.' Here we need ask then, just what are we prepared to determine is in a ' reality ' that is actually ' there?' What then, is the inner/mental ' view ' based upon? What Standard? Fact is, to view a pic, we need come to some previous inner agreement, as there is a torrent of visual information, and this often becomes a cause for indecision and doubt. This multiplicity of choices has a bewildering effect on the brain .. it occurs as 'choices ' in these mixed-messages which float around in seeming chaotic swirls needing a handle, an interpretation or insight to.
What is my view of all this? I say test your skill .. push it to the limits .. repeatedly. Actually, you are likely doing your best already, now .. let your mind make up the rest. It is quite capable of ever and consistently developing new associations of thought, chains of logic, psycho-pictographic image protocols. The human brain is capable of solving any ' problem ' of the human brain. Your mind works at incredible speed, and it will create custom algorythms and programs for you to adapt to your intent and intended mastery. Do you actually think a piano player just walks into Carnegie Hall and sits down and becomes a concert pianist? Obviously .. no. He has practiced relentlessly for thousands and thousands of hours to be on that Steinway Bench. And you know what .. his brain has accommodated him all the way, to be there with the ' right-connections ' to achieve.In this .. or any discipline .. it is insistence to your own self .. to produce .. to sacrifice .. to become the best you can be, that accomplishes, that instills, and installs, the wherewithal to be the you .. you want to be .. the talent you want, desire and must have .. in your mind and life. Practice, practice .. and practice. Study the style and techniques of others you find competent and elucidating to you. It has happened to me .. more than once in this field .. and others, there will come a time when something just ' clicks ' in your mind and perceptions .. you have passed a breaking-point --from ' it's impossible ' to ' I can't believe it ' to ' I can do this .. consistently!
Thanks Marsrocks for the privledge of posting here. Actually, I enjoy a good trek across the sands of Mars .. so much to see .. so much to learn! Yet, armchair exploring is not quite boots on the ground, but apparently will have to do .. for now.Cheers/ -M ***********************************************************************
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Post by Marsrocks on Aug 25, 2013 7:57:53 GMT -5
Morbius, we are putting a great degree of faith in NASA. If the lady's story was true, that means that everything from that mission was a fraud. Per the Nasa descriptions of what happens, the images of Mars we get do not come through at moving video speeds - they come through very slowly one frame at a time. So, either the lady was lying or confused about watching texaco-like servicemen walking up to the rover, or everything we are told by nasa is false. The frames are often stored by the rover for many hours before they come down, and then they are processed - and then released. It is not how she described the process, at all. So, what the lady described as watching on the monitors does not fit what we are told happens. There are a number of possibilities from there - but if the lady was not lying or confused about what she saw, all of them lead to conclusions that the entire mission was faked - and actually took place on Earth. And if that is true, nothing we see has anything to do with Mars.
On that note, however, of possible honest confusion, nasa does have practice areas for the rover missions to which technicians do have access. They do wear Texaco-like service suits to service the rover - and they go into studios that are set up to be as much like the actual Mars mission as possible. To prevent the rover from getting stuck, they use these studios to position the rover, the sand, and rocks, and practice various methods to extricate and maneuver the rover. These practice maneuvers exactly fit what the lady described - and the images of what was happening would come through at video speeds just as she described also. So, the lady may well have been confused about what she was seeing (just practice maneuvers set up to simulate actual positions).
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morbius
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Post by morbius on Aug 25, 2013 14:57:40 GMT -5
Marsrocks, thanks for the intel, as it is a good overview of the situation presented. Indeed, the lady seems to have inadvertently observed a Rover studio ' practice maneuver/s' session, and thus was not purposely lying, but honestly describing what she assumed was ' happening /?' However, to have any faith in NASA entails a review of their track record, and this I'm afraid is a dismal failure. To be handed smeared over pics of originally pristine and accurate renditions of the Martian landscape, questions their honesty and integrity somewhat don't you think? Are we to believe or have faith.. that this manipulation, somehow, magically stops in other forms of ' data ' released to the public? I think not, and have had to go over this with TW and others repeatedly .. as their invalid arguments were based upon the assumption that NASA is squeaky clean and forthcoming in their data releases. I asked them to independently check, confirm or verify this dubious ' data ' for themselves .. then reconsider if they would be so adamant in repeating NASA claims and data decrees further. I assume such as TW were falling back on the Law of Logical Argument wherein ' Anything is possible if you don't know what you are talking about.' In essentials then, we cannot but be aware that NASA's agenda is to hide the truth .. not reveal it. This is a clandestine military operation, and as such, this insures that secrecy is a pivotal factor in all their agenda's and activities. NASA ' releases ' ..are nothing less than time-gaining diversions to cover the real space program operations, and these are so muddled in their reporting that it is causing totally massive bewilderment and confusion to researchers and the public at large .. which in any event, is what it seems they are counting on in great degree. I believe these are accurate and defining observations, and a summary of the bigger picture we, and the general public at large, are encountering in our constantly impeded researches. Cheers / -M ****************************************************************************************
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