ken
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Post by ken on Jun 23, 2013 13:18:25 GMT -5
Hello Mars Anomalies forum members, I am a new member to this forum and I am trying to make sense of what appears to be a carving of a head on Mars that resembles a Buddha head that we are familiar with on earth. I had posted this on the AA forum but it did not seem to appeal to anyone for further investigation. I thought I will give it a try here on this Mars Anomaly forum for seasoned members to see if they can explain if what I am seeing is an optical illusion or not. This image is a screen capture from www.360cities.net/image/mars-panorama-curiosity-solar-day-177#-90.02,0.16,5.4 The head is in the centre of the screen capture photo.
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Post by Marsrocks on Jun 24, 2013 11:38:01 GMT -5
Ken, The panorama was created from Curiosity sol 170 thru 177 images. We can compare the landscape where it is located to try to find your subject in the raw images to see if there is additional information available: This is your subject in larger images so that we can find it by landscape comparisons: We'll be looking through the images starting at the link below to try and find the corresponding raw image from your panoramic image: mars.jpl.nasa.gov/msl/multimedia/raw/?s=3#/?slide=170
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Post by Marsrocks on Jun 24, 2013 11:45:37 GMT -5
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Post by Marsrocks on Jun 24, 2013 12:04:10 GMT -5
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morbius
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Post by morbius on Jun 27, 2013 20:44:39 GMT -5
Hello Ken, I have looked over the submission you are ' trying to make sense of ', particularly of what may appear a Buddha-like head/bust/outline. I did not review this previously, having only caught up with you in such as your later ' Smithy ', ' Girl with Puppy ', and the ' T-shirt ' guy. These I believe we had resolved with some success .. perhaps too successfully. Again, I am not sure if I am considered a seasoned member here, but will, best I can, explain what appears present in your picture .. optical illusion or otherwise. What is immediately noticeable, is that the pic requires some rather extensive graphics clarification efforts, beginning with one of the worst cases of obfuscation I have ever encountered. Whoever worked over this scene had saved no efforts to ensure that nobody was going to have any idea as to the original scene and context of this picture. To wit: the original was copied and stacked, to prevent any depth of field attempts. Entire sets of pixels were then opaque and variously offset. This was followed by double obfuscation layers. One lighter and one of medium-grey tone .. plus the addition of fine vertical streaks as well. I have prepared a viewing of this extensive tampering in the second attachment, where all of these techniques and elements are presented in one exampled view. There you will see the opaque and offset pixel groups, the lighter obfuscation .. which appears as molten-lava smears, the darker obfuscation .. appearing as a greenish mould, and the finer ( vertical ) streaks as well. I am presenting these examples here, in the hopes that the dedicated anomaly hunter will take this seriously, as it is a very real condition, and a problem that is constantly encountered In our research. Yet, there are positive ways and approaches to detect, bypass, and deal with this regrettable aspect .. of picture manipulation. There is little use or resulting productivity in the detection and clarification of anomalies without first considering this unfortunate but ever present condition. To look at or examine a pic, as if it were taken on earth .. is a mistake, and apparently just what NASA et al, is in degree counting on. Their specially-prepared ' public releases ' are designed to let your mind fall into the trap of defaulting to others opinion, basically theirs, as to what is ' there.' What you see however, is not even there, in the original, and what is, or was ' there ', you can now hardly see or make out at all. Ken's picture in example here, is displaying but 15-20% of the original picture, and it is only with some background experience and careful use of select programs is it possible to laboriously untangle and extract any meaningful information or data that is still available in some form. To proceed then, with some observations and comments on this pic, I have taken Ken's pic as sufficient here, for any and all others are more or less guaranteed to have the same all pervasive obfuscation to deal with. The first attachment has been prepared to look like a real pic, as believable or ' normal '. It is not .. having simply been optimized to look so. The obfuscation is just as present .. but blended and neutralized to some degree. This will become quite apparent when compared to the second attachment. Ken's observations and descriptives are, in my opinion and experience, second to none .. my own included. When first following his works, as the mentioned ' Smithy ', ' T-shirt ' guy, etc., it took some serious 2 - 5 minutes to properly focus on the subject matter he was presenting. I was impressed and began to study and practice to obtain some competency in his viewing technique. This I believe was only laboriously achieved with his work in the old film format for over 40-years. The groups of silver atoms in ' film ' are of a thousand times more detail than the spaced single ' modern ' pixel format. Ken is honestly perplexed at his find, and yet has described this as a Buddha-like head. This is a quality of mind .. a function that discerns and qualifies some vague or unclear item. It is an association of thought, a chain of logic, a natural psycho-pictographic image insight if you will. It is a state of awareness we should, as anomaly hunters, all be aware of.. and strive to emulate in our researches .. and daily life too. In the first pic, I have set his particular area of study separately and below this a few examples of the smiling or laughing Buddha. Even more so, a closer comparison appears in the Greek 'persona' theater-masks of old. The resemblance is uncanny. As Ken did not indicate anything but that it generally looked so, I feel this in appearance is so.. but, also, that in essentials it is actually a collage or montage .. an effect from a collection of various items and shadows caused by the various techniques and obfuscation overlays colliding. The picture is a good choice, and of great merit in that we learn from it how to look and how to perceive the content and elements involved .. then we can make a reasonably competent attempt at unravelling these unecessarily tampered with, once pristine, pictures. In the third, and final pic of this set, is what I perceive are elements of the original and true pic. These ROvers/Curiosity ..vehicles are, as constantly observed in my studies, continuously followed by a military escort. As well, these are backed up and transported with personel and armoured-vehicles. The source of these militia may be under some local agreement .. but I think these more likely be off-worlders ( like us ). There is, again, usually a great number of native people present who seem to gauk and stand dumbishly staring at our robots. They, and the military personel, seem quite at ease and co-mingle freely together in all depictions I have seen. There are over a hundred persons in this pic, but will simply mark out a few for you to familiarize yourself with in observing this phenomena. In short order you should be picking out more of the many present here. The tank may be a bit undefined and I do not claim it is exact but only an approximation outline depicted here .. but those in blue I am certain of as people .. quite certain. This ' reply ' was somewhat difficult as an effort to untangle and present some indications of what we are dealing with here, but I am happy to comment and encourage a fellow refugee .. and hope that all MA derives some benefit, training tips and insight from this work. Cheers / -M *************
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ken
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Post by ken on Jun 28, 2013 12:06:48 GMT -5
That is great analytical analysis work Morbius!
I often wondered why when one of these more lately rover photos is enlarged to a great degree, the result is nothing like what we get here on earth with digital photography, when a photo is blown up to an uncomfortable large size.
With no tampering, an extremely enlarged benign earth based photo section shows fairly uniform pixel artifacts and not this what I call "looking through a wool sweater" pattern that is so common on these last photos from the Curiosity rover photo shots of Mars.
Your explanation of this layering obfuscation makes sense, so now any outsider doing analysis on these photos is thrown for a loop as what appears straight forward on first discovery becomes a confusing jumble of something else with each contrast change, extreme enlargement, brightness change, and colour correction.
The researcher is left with a bewildering phantasma of confusing imagery that changes with every unveiling attempt, so he or she will throw their arms up in frustration and give up this endevour to reveal the real scene.
Clever bunch these NASA censors. Why are they so afraid to show us what is really on Mars?
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Post by Marsrocks on Jun 28, 2013 15:30:55 GMT -5
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Post by Marsrocks on Jun 28, 2013 15:36:28 GMT -5
Since the block-shaped color patches interfere with our ability to see the actual colors, it also makes it hard for us to tell where one object stops and the next one starts- really making it hard to "read" what is actually there.
You actually have to look through (ignore) those color blocks to try and understand the scene.
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ken
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Post by ken on Jun 28, 2013 16:57:13 GMT -5
Marsrocks, that last picture shows ghost images of structures like apartment builds.
No photograph taken by people on earth ever looks like the photos we get from NASA about Mars that are taken by this Curiosity rover.
Every new Mars photo is really a clever illustration and not an actual photograph, created by someone here on planet earth so we can never see what is on the surface of Mars.
I wonder if NASA has a computer program to turn every artificial structure on Mars into rocks on these photos?
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morbius
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Post by morbius on Jun 29, 2013 2:54:47 GMT -5
Just a short addendum here. In the left forefront are two beauties of Mars. One is facing the camera, another in front of her in a cameo shot of her right side. A really good eye-relief exercise for the fatigued anomaly hunter. There is in fact a great deal of such useable material present, and yet to be found in this picture. Cheers .. and good hunting. /-M ****************************** Attachments:
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morbius
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Post by morbius on Jul 12, 2013 3:10:02 GMT -5
This is a reply to Marsrock's Jun 28,2013/4.30, 2nd down " block shaped stones." Had been looking at this particular shot and wondering just what was underneath the usual tampering layers, so did a little study of its potential. Well .. after about a dozen or so, I gave up on the outlining of native peoples. You can hardly move your cursor without bumping into another person. A surprising but not entirely unexpected scene in the middle looks like a giant coloured lady reclining .. yet a little to her left is a Lilliputian-like girl too. Seems to get stranger all the time?!! Any thoughts on this one? Cheers / -M ************************************** Attachments:
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ken
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Post by ken on Jul 12, 2013 15:50:36 GMT -5
Good work discovering more little people Morbius.
There are several more human like forms there too.
It looks to me another open air manufacturing factory or facility of some sort.
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